CoachBuilt Prams

Ok  then    I  want  a  Versailles  and  a Pastorale   but  most  of  all I  want  a La Viscomtesse,  there  will be  one  somewhere  waiting for me  I know.

What  do you  others  wish  for? 

dont know the actual name but the make is silver cross and it had a brown hood and apron and an off white interior.the width including the sides is 19".dont remember the depth but deep and long.White handle attached to the sides in a swan shape.and the body is colouresd a bit like oyster.it takes a 21" canopy and the chassis is tubular doesnt have leather straps but is not detachable doesnt have hubcaps looks a bit like a silverstream but for the tubular chassis.I am actually decribing my pram from when i had my first child 33 years ago although i have never seen another like it i would dearly love to have another and if not similar.this is top of my wish list.

failing that a millson.:wink:

How  did   the   pram attach  to the  chassis  then?     Did  it  have  chrome   springs?    Royale  prams  have   the  chrome   spring   suspension.

it had silver connections about the same length as a strap would have been.there was another mum in our close and she had a blue one the same but her didnt have the tubular chassis it had the more common flat metal chassis.sorry i dont describe things very well.i am like another lady onhere and that is i only ever had a photo of the hood as the baby was what i was taking the picture of back then..if only i had taken a picture of the whole pram.i think it may have been very similar to a silverstream.i will have to have a good look through the albums on here when i have the time and see which one looks most like it.

added to say it was definately a silver cross as it had the emblem on the pram

Have  you had  a  look  through  the   Albums on   the  Perfect  Prams  site?   You may  find it on there   there  are loads  of pram  pics.   Don't  get  hung  up on the colour  that  yours  was  though,   because  they often  look  so  different  in  another    colour  and  so  you might miss it.   Likewise the  chassis,   sometimes     the  same  body   was  put  onto  two  different  chassis  and  given  two  totally  different  names   so   really  look hard  for  the   body  that  yours  had.

yes i have had a look and the pram looks like a silverstream body(only it was brown and all the ones on here are black or blue)but cant see the same chassis.will keep looking through.it looked like a full size version of the osnath dolls pram.can you get a full size osnath the same as the dolls pram?Please excuse my ignorance but am learning still.:cool:

To be honest  I have  never  seen   an Osnath  dolls  pram  I don't  think,   so  I can't help you with  that one.

I have only just joined the site. I would love to find a  silver cross pram like the one I bought new in 1971.It had 24 inch wheels and a swan neck handle, gold coloured long body, not very deep with a brown hood and apron and a very handy shopping try underneath. I remember it cost £50. I cannot remember what model it was, possibly a marmet. Pardon my ignorance on this.Can anyone advise please

My wish list is for one pram, one pram only, for my daughter who is expecting her first baby.  A Wilson SX, a SC, Marmet, Osnath, any beautiful, baby ready old pram, with big wheels, large 40" body and swan neck handle.  Only problem is I can't find one because all you prammies snap them up:dry:  Merry Christmas.

Just got london baby coach.Body is green hood and apron blue.It is a harrods limited edition.Having trouble dating it.Can anyone help?

at the risk of offending agree with poster who says that prammies snap up prams.I agree.I dearly would love a huge bouncy pram for my grandson and any grandchildren after him.but am pipped to the post by people who want to have the pram for display or collection only without a baby at all  in it maybe just a reborn  after all what were the prams made for-a real live baby.

I understand your frustration and am sorry you are cross about collectors snapping prams up and pipping other buyers to the post. This can happen to anyone who wants to buy vintage prams, regardless of whether they are a collector or a grandparent  trying to buy a pram for new grandchild.

What is clear, is that these beauties are much sought after. I have also missed out on bids or been sniped in the last, dying seconds on auction sites. The frustration is the same for us collectors. I am sure you will agree, that just because I do not have a grandchild to put in my prams and they are never going to carry a child, does not mean I should not have any.

I LOVE my prams, I cherish them, protect them and keep them safe for future generations. As a collector, I often update my collection and sell on prams to others. In several cases, my prams have been sold to families who were expecting a new baby. 

They bought in the knowledge that the pram was clean, baby ready and if any jobs needed to doing, I told them honestly about them.  I feel that this was better than buying blind off an auction site, where little or no information is available about the pram.

I am afraid, it is a sellers market, vintage pram prices have remained pretty strong, despite the downturn in the economy.  Baby ready prams are at a premium and many parents and grandparents are willing to spend a great deal on a really nice model.

My hobby is collecting vintage prams and it takes a lot of work, sourcing prams and accessories. I spend a proportion of my spare time trawling sites, contacting sellers and advertising my wishlist.  I hope you will forgive us collectors for our keeness and perseverance.  We do it because we love prams and we can't resist finding  a space for just another one when we see a model we covet. 

Good luck with your search, I hope you find the pram of your dreams for your grandchild.

xchristinex57@aol.com at 10:35AM on Dec 23, 2009

I have only just joined the site. I would love to find a  silver cross pram like the one I bought new in 1971.It had 24 inch wheels and a swan neck handle, gold coloured long body, not very deep with a brown hood and apron and a very handy shopping try underneath. I remember it cost £50. I cannot remember what model it was, possibly a marmet. Pardon my ignorance on this.Can anyone advise please

Have  you  got  a  photograph  of  it  by  any  chance Christine?

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Janis at 01:06PM on Dec 23, 2009

My wish list is for one pram, one pram only, for my daughter who is expecting her first baby.  A Wilson SX, a SC, Marmet, Osnath, any beautiful, baby ready old pram, with big wheels, large 40" body and swan neck handle.  Only problem is I can't find one because all you prammies snap them up:dry:  Merry Christmas.

Oh  dear  Janis,  I  can imagine  your  frustration  at not being  able  to find  what  you want.   When  I  first    started  to  think  about   collecting  prams  I was  in the same   boat  as you believe it  or not.   I  had my Egremont  which  I  got in   1969   but  could  I  get my hands  onto my  second  pram?    I  tried  everything,  I was on  Ebay  morning  noon  and  night  looking  and  I  was  always  pipped at the  post  over  and over again.   It  was  a  nightmare  and I began  to  think   I  would never get  another  one.   But  I  did   eventually.   How  much harder it  would  have  been   for  me if  I  had  a  deadline  as  you have  for  your  first  grandchild's    birth.      I    will be  selling  some of  the   Osnaths  that  I  bought    a   while  ago,  but    I  don't know  that   they can be  described  as   baby  ready  yet   to be honest,  I'll hav e a  look  through  them  for  you.   I  will   keep  a look  out  for you at any rate. 

helen cookson at 12:51PM on Dec 24, 2009

Just got london baby coach.Body is green hood and apron blue.It is a harrods limited edition.Having trouble dating it.Can anyone help?

Helen   could you send  me  a  pic of  it  please  to   coachbuiltprams@yahoo.com?   I  can't  guarantee  that  I  can help   but  I  will  do my best.   I have  no LBC   literature  to date them or  tell us anything about  them   and   to be honest  I  don't  know  of  anyone  who has.

S x

siancj at 01:12PM on Dec 25, 2009

I understand your frustration and am sorry you are cross about collectors snapping prams up and pipping other buyers to the post. This can happen to anyone who wants to buy vintage prams, regardless of whether they are a collector or a grandparent  trying to buy a pram for new grandchild.

 

What is clear, is that these beauties are much sought after. I have also missed out on bids or been sniped in the last, dying seconds on auction sites. The frustration is the same for us collectors. I am sure you will agree, that just because I do not have a grandchild to put in my prams and they are never going to carry a child, does not mean I should not have any.

 

I LOVE my prams, I cherish them, protect them and keep them safe for future generations. As a collector, I often update my collection and sell on prams to others. In several cases, my prams have been sold to families who were expecting a new baby. 

 

They bought in the knowledge that the pram was clean, baby ready and if any jobs needed to doing, I told them honestly about them.  I feel that this was better than buying blind off an auction site, where little or no information is available about the pram.

 

I am afraid, it is a sellers market, vintage pram prices have remained pretty strong, despite the downturn in the economy.  Baby ready prams are at a premium and many parents and grandparents are willing to spend a great deal on a really nice model.

 

My hobby is collecting vintage prams and it takes a lot of work, sourcing prams and accessories. I spend a proportion of my spare time trawling sites, contacting sellers and advertising my wishlist.  I hope you will forgive us collectors for our keeness and perseverance.  We do it because we love prams and we can't resist finding  a space for just another one when we see a model we covet. 

 

Good luck with your search, I hope you find the pram of your dreams for your grandchild.

I     agree with   you   Sian.   We    have  both  been there  and  the    frustration  was  huge  for me   too,  trying  to  find  the  first  pram  to begin my   'collection'.  I  have   been lucky  enough to  have   had   all    4  of  my grandchildren  in   one or  other  of my  prams  too, at  various  times,    so  I  do  understand  the thrill of  taking  your grandchild  for  a  walk in  a     proper  pram. 

I  have   bought  many  a   wreck of a  pram  too (still have  them)  with  the   intention of    restoring  them.  Not  many of my  prams   could have been described  as   baby  ready  I  wouldn' t say,  when  I  bought  them.  And then you  have  to   spend  a lot of  money   getting them  fit   for anything   to be put   into  them,  let  alone  a  baby,  which I  know  that  you  will  understand.   

The prams  which are   sold  in  good  condition  or   baby  ready,  have  a  high  price  tag on  them  too   but   can still  mean (if it  was  a restored  pram) that   the  person  who has  restored   it  has  taken  a  loss  most of  the  time,  because  of  the money  it  costs  to  restore them  not   to mention  the  time it  takes.

I  am personally happy  that   so many  people   who  buy prams - for  whatever reason -  these  days are  saving them,  hopefully ,' for posterity'.    If  things  had   gone  on as  they were  only    a    few  short years  ago   there   could have  been  little  or  no prams  around  for  any of  us   within   a   short   period of  time.   Surely    collectors  have    had  a  hand  in  bringing   these   beauties    to    the   attention  of  the  general  public?     If  that  is  the case then  I  am  delighted.   There are  still  lots of them around in  attics  somewhere or  other I'm  sure  and  I  would  prefer   a    collector   got  them  than  for them to  go  to  the tip  or   to   have the   chassis  and  wheels  used  for  go -carts.   But that  is just my own  opinion.

I  hope   that  the  other  ladies  who are  looking  for  prams  for  their   grand children  get  what  they  are  looking for  very  quickly,  I  really   do  and if  I  can help   in  any  way   I  will  certainly  try.

I accidentally posted my reply to janis but it went something like i wasnt cross exactly and wasnt having a go at the people who got the prams to put reborns in just that with limited funds i just dont seem to be able to get the pram i would like anywhere be it ebay or preloved as each time i have been beated to it.you can see after the feedback has been left roughly who got it by what they have bought before and on several occasions there has been feedback from someone who it shows has been buying and selling prams.nothing wrong with that everyone should do what they want but it gets so frustrating when you are on a budget and have to add the cost of a courier which could easily double the actual final price putting it out of reach.sorry if i have offended anyone.

Yes,  I  can   understand  that,  that  is  just  how  I  was   fixed  at  first.    You  also have  to  remember  that   often  if  a  pram is  going   for  a reasonable  price  they  can  be  snapped  up  by a  dealer   who  can   buy  them    to sell  them on again.    Sometimes  without   doing   anything  at  all  to them or maybe  after   giving the pram a  bit of a  clean up  only.   Unfortunately it  happens.     Have       either  you or  Janis  been onto  Preloved?   If  you haven't   I   would  advise  you  to  join  the  site.  There  are  coachbuilts for sale    on  there  too  but   with  no   auction -   Buy it  Now  prices.    So  you may feel  better  about      trying it  that  way.  There  is  also  a  thriving   message  board,  where  there are  lots of prammies   talking  to  each  other   all the  time,  you  can get     some   great   tips/experience/advice /prammie  chat   and  a lot more  besides on there.   They  are  a very  friendly  bunch  and  well  worth  taking the  time  to    get  used  to  using  it.

Also   have  you  tried  using  a   Bidding  service  like  Bidknapper  or  Bid  tamer   to  do the  bidding  for  you?     You    join     them  and tell  them   how  much  your  top   price  would  be  on    whatever  item  it is on  Ebay.   Then  in  the closing seconds of the  auction   they  bid  for  you.      This has  the  advantage  of not  running  up  the price on  Ebay  and    also  if  you  change  your mind at  any  time and cancel your  bid, or if  you want to  increase  your   bid   at  any point  you  can.   I      use them    pretty often.   I have  to say that  I  don't  often  buy    prams on  Ebay  though,  in fact  I  can  only  think  of   three prams  that  I have   bought   through  Ebay.    Most  of mine  have  been  bought  from other   collectors,  or  people  who  I have   met  though  being  an  enthusiast.

Hello all, andhope you have had a Merry Christmas? I am sitting her on Christmas Day,thinking about my wishlist and I thought it might be useful if I postedmy requests on the forum.

I am looking for two things, firstly,a Silverdawne pram, any colour or condition. It has to be the older 40ins model with the deeper body. This is for an ongoing project, whichwill require a complete paint job, so condition is really not aproblem.

Secondly, I would dearly love an original copy of,"Prams Mailcarts and Bassinets; A History of the Perambulator" by JackHampshire which was published in the 1980's. I have a copy of thereprinted, 2009 version but would prefer to have the original.

Please contact me if you can help, I am willing to pay good prices for these items.

Sian

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